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Re: RSV4 update

Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2017 3:36 pm
by turismon
They aren’t old enough to have the same problem. Give it time lol.

Re: RSV4 update

Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2017 3:48 pm
by dufremle
We'll find out in another year how the '17 motors hold up. Shouldn't the '18s be out soon?

Re: RSV4 update

Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2017 4:23 pm
by JTChiTown
Lol, I was gonna say..... All the 14s made it through 2015.....not sure I'd trust a 17 without clarification of all the failure modes and engineering changes made.

Re: RSV4 update

Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2017 4:35 pm
by JeffStrom
JTChiTown wrote:Lol, I was gonna say..... All the 14s made it through 2015.....not sure I'd trust a 17 without clarification of all the failure modes and engineering changes made.
The only info I have seen on it
" Romano Albesiano, Aprilia Racing Technical Manager, said the 2017 RSV4 engine has lighter pistons, revised connecting rods, and a tweaked ECU brings redline to 13,000 rpm—300 over the 2016’s V4. " and another place said "..a number of friction reducing treatments..."

But nothing addresses the failures directly.

Re: RSV4 update

Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2017 7:48 pm
by turismon
Rick, your motor basically getting rebuilt, should just keep the one you got.

Re: RSV4 update

Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2017 8:52 pm
by fixxervi6
Turismon wrote:Rick, your motor basically getting rebuilt, should just keep the one you got.
That's the problem - it's being put back to the condition it was in, flaws and all. If it was being "fixed" that would be a different story

Re: RSV4 update

Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2017 8:47 am
by nitzer
JeffStrom wrote:
fixxervi6 wrote:
Turismon wrote:AF1?
Aprilia dealer in Austin, they apparently gave an irresistible cash over to a fellow '14 owner with a spun bearing and convinced another '14 owner that the '17's are "fixed"
TXSR Mike said something similar about the new ones not having the same issues.
And after this experience I wouldn't care what who said what about the RSV4... I wouldn't buy another Aprilia. I'm with Fixxer on this. I would get it fixed and dump it.

Re: RSV4 update

Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2017 9:25 am
by JTChiTown
Yeah. His was literally the last Aprilia I've had personal knowledge of that didn't have catastrophic or other significant failure.

#neveraprilia

Re: RSV4 update

Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2017 11:00 am
by fixxervi6
assembly starts tomorrow!

Re: RSV4 update

Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2017 11:39 am
by dufremle
:idea:

Re: RSV4 update

Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2017 12:41 pm
by JeffStrom
Good news.

So was that about six weeks to get the parts once they decided to fix it? That seems excessive, but not as excessive as more than two months to diagnose and decide. I wonder how much of that was on Eurosport.

Re: RSV4 update

Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2017 2:26 pm
by fixxervi6
JeffStrom wrote:Good news.

So was that about six weeks to get the parts once they decided to fix it? That seems excessive, but not as excessive as more than two months to diagnose and decide. I wonder how much of that was on Eurosport.
I talked to the parts supplier, apparently I decided to break down the right as Italy took a month off.

Re: RSV4 update

Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2017 2:43 pm
by fixxervi6
The '14 lives again

Re: RSV4 update

Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2017 3:15 pm
by dufremle
Finally! When can you pick it up?

Re: RSV4 update

Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2017 4:25 pm
by fixxervi6
dufremle wrote:Finally! When can you pick it up?
Any time

Re: RSV4 update

Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2017 7:23 pm
by soslow
what is the word on the repair, is it a fix or is it just a bandaid until it lets go again?

Re: RSV4 update

Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2017 7:44 pm
by Tooner
Rick, I was thinking of you today and what a long shitty ordeal this has been for you and wondering how long my shit storm will last. Last night at 2.7 hours on the clock the 2018 crf450r motor went "grinder" WTF! SOB!

Re: RSV4 update

Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2017 7:55 pm
by soslow
you have got to be kidding me Shane. is there any kind of warranty on dirt bikes?

Re: RSV4 update

Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2017 8:27 pm
by dufremle
Tooner wrote:Rick, I was thinking of you today and what a long shitty ordeal this has been for you and wondering how long my shit storm will last. Last night at 2.7 hours on the clock the 2018 crf450r motor went "grinder" WTF! SOB!
Holy shit. Did the dealer forget to put oil in it at the first service?

Re: RSV4 update

Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2017 8:28 pm
by Tooner
soslow wrote:you have got to be kidding me Shane. is there any kind of warranty on dirt bikes?
No warranty. Its funny, the salesman said, "Its a Honda, who needs a warranty?" When I googled "2018 crf450r engine failure" the first search talked about decompression system failures that have occurred. As I read about how they typically present I was pretty sure that was what happened only to be confirmed a couple of hours ago when I lifted the valve cover and the decompression weight and the right camshaft barring fall into my hand. I'm guessing $1500 and a month in the shop.

Re: RSV4 update

Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2017 8:31 pm
by JeffStrom
Tooner wrote:Rick, I was thinking of you today and what a long shitty ordeal this has been for you and wondering how long my shit storm will last. Last night at 2.7 hours on the clock the 2018 crf450r motor went "grinder" WTF! SOB!
WTF? Sorry.

Re: RSV4 update

Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2017 8:54 pm
by fixxervi6
soslow wrote:what is the word on the repair, is it a fix or is it just a bandaid until it lets go again?
Basically a new engine so its g2g
Tooner wrote:Rick, I was thinking of you today and what a long shitty ordeal this has been for you and wondering how long my shit storm will last. Last night at 2.7 hours on the clock the 2018 crf450r motor went "grinder" WTF! SOB!
Should have bought Italian, at least then when it goes boom it's not a complete surprise :D Any idea what went wrong?
Tooner wrote:No warranty. Its funny, the salesman said, "Its a Honda, who needs a warranty?" When I googled "2018 crf450r engine failure" the first search talked about decompression system failures that have occurred. As I read about how they typically present I was pretty sure that was what happened only to be confirmed a couple of hours ago when I lifted the valve cover and the decompression weight and the right camshaft barring fall into my hand. I'm guessing $1500 and a month in the shop.
Holy shit - I'd be PISSED