Suzuki Cold Start problem

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Re: Suzuki Cold Start problem

Post by DemonDuck » Sat Jan 07, 2012 2:10 am

Why dont you try putting one of them nice little light batteries in there that have more juice than the origional. We still have someone making them?
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Re: Suzuki Cold Start problem

Post by dufremle » Sat Jan 07, 2012 9:53 am

One thing to check would be all of the grounds on the entire bike. Make sure they all have good connections and have not broken. A bad ground can cause all kind of electrical issues. Another thing would be to replace the rectifier with a better version since the problem started after the recall. There are companies that specialize in rewiring the stock version with better components than the ones made in china. Not a cheap option, but worth looking into.
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Re: Suzuki Cold Start problem

Post by Grinner » Sat Jan 07, 2012 9:57 am

I was kinda thinkin the same thing in reference to the grounds.
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Re: Suzuki Cold Start problem

Post by fixxervi6 » Sat Jan 07, 2012 11:15 am

NickS wrote:Sounds like the fuel pump is doing something (pumping fuel, one assumes) each time he fires the starter. Maybe it's flooding? Once started, it sound's just like a cold bike with not enough choke. Almost seems like a glitch in the fuel mapping/ECU, I assume temperature is measured and accounts for some aspect of the Fuel/Air mix. Since this seems to happen both stock and with third party fuel mapping (right?)....could a bad temperature sensor be a possibility? Or have I had too much scotch and not enough learning?
The fuel pump sound at each start is normal

Thats not my vid by the way, guess I should have stated that, it SOUNDS like its running on 3 cylinders and its stupid rich on the back. People have gone through and replaced sensors and the problem remains, one guy even dropped money on a new ECU.
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Re: Suzuki Cold Start problem

Post by fixxervi6 » Sat Jan 07, 2012 11:17 am

dufremle wrote:One thing to check would be all of the grounds on the entire bike. Make sure they all have good connections and have not broken. A bad ground can cause all kind of electrical issues. Another thing would be to replace the rectifier with a better version since the problem started after the recall. There are companies that specialize in rewiring the stock version with better components than the ones made in china. Not a cheap option, but worth looking into.
I had no idea they may aftermaket rectifiers, I guess it could be that or they messed something up wtih a ground when they did the recall service.

I don't even know where the rectifier is at on this thing, probably buried under a ton of stuff, I'll need to consult the manual.
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Re: Suzuki Cold Start problem

Post by milesmiles » Sat Jan 07, 2012 11:21 am

They do make aftermarket rectifiers, as you may remember i had to replace mine. Before you go off and buy a rectifier, just see how much yours is putting out. I did this with mine.
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Re: Suzuki Cold Start problem

Post by U-Turn » Sat Jan 07, 2012 11:22 am

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Re: Suzuki Cold Start problem

Post by Grinner » Sat Jan 07, 2012 3:11 pm

Rectifier is on the subframe or the frame right above the clutch if I member correctly.
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Re: Suzuki Cold Start problem

Post by fixxervi6 » Sat Jan 07, 2012 3:49 pm

Well the FI light is coming on pretty frequently now, hopefully this thing will just catch on fire or something like that.
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Re: Suzuki Cold Start problem

Post by fixxervi6 » Sat Jan 07, 2012 11:08 pm

Found out how to pull the codes.

It's been starting just fine on the tender so I'm taking it off the tender to try to piss it off on startup, I'll take it out to tomorrow and get the FI light to come on then pull the code.

I was looking through the wiring diagram, this bike has more god damn electronics in it than my truck, I didn't see it in the book but I'm sure there is a sensor on there someplace to measure the temperature of my ass on the seat!
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Re: Suzuki Cold Start problem

Post by fixxervi6 » Sun Jan 08, 2012 12:36 am

Face palm time, the FI code has nothing to do with my cold start issue:

Q: Why does my FI light come on when I use the quick shifter or the traction control on my Suzuki?

A: It is common for the QS or TC system to activate the FI light on Suzuki motorcycles. The factory ECU is programmed to fire the ignition coils at specific intervals depending on engine speed. However, when the TC and/or QS feature is in use, the Bazzaz system interrupts the coil signal (known as 'cutting the coils') to allow for clutchless up-shifting or regaining of rear wheel traction. Therefore, the coils are not firing when the factory ECU is anticipating. When it does not sense execution of this task, a warning 'FI' light is activated. This has no negative effect on power or performance and is not, in any way, harmful to your machine. The activation of the 'FI' light is simply a by-product of modifying the ignition signal.

I hamered on the QS pretty hard a few times today so I that would explain it.

OH and the PR3's stick better than those 2CT's I used to bitch about, I think those 2CT's were a bad set.
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Re: Suzuki Cold Start problem

Post by Firewa11 » Mon Jan 09, 2012 7:50 am

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Re: Suzuki Cold Start problem

Post by Bailout » Mon Jan 09, 2012 10:05 am

Sounds like time for a peice of calibrated electrical tape to cover the error light!
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Re: Suzuki Cold Start problem

Post by Rhino » Mon Jan 09, 2012 10:46 am

Does TaylorMade sell electrical tape? :SideSplittingLaughter:

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Re: Suzuki Cold Start problem

Post by fixxervi6 » Mon Jan 09, 2012 10:49 am

Rhino wrote:Does TaylorMade sell electrical tape? :SideSplittingLaughter:
No, but they gave me a nice sticker with it.
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Re: Suzuki Cold Start problem

Post by Rhino » Mon Jan 09, 2012 11:27 am

Actually if you have any more of that skull wheel tape left that would be pretty badass on your dash.

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Re: Suzuki Cold Start problem

Post by fixxervi6 » Mon Jan 09, 2012 11:39 am

Rhino wrote:Actually if you have any more of that skull wheel tape left that would be pretty badass on your dash.
There is no room on the dash, I wouldn't want that up there anyway, wheel tape is pretty calm bling imo. Most bikes come stock with it.
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Re: Suzuki Cold Start problem

Post by Telomere » Fri Jan 13, 2012 8:16 pm

She is just a high maintenance machine and bitches when she hasn't had enough attention!

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Re: Suzuki Cold Start problem

Post by armedandinsain » Sat Jan 14, 2012 1:01 am

And people want to know why we give our bikes girl names.
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Re: Suzuki Cold Start problem

Post by Rhino » Sat Jan 14, 2012 10:06 am

armedandinsain wrote:And people want to know why we give our bikes girl names.
Because we don't ride dudes...

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Re: Suzuki Cold Start problem

Post by milesmiles » Sat Jan 14, 2012 10:12 am

Rhino wrote:
armedandinsain wrote:And people want to know why we give our bikes girl names.
Because we don't ride dudes...
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Re: Suzuki Cold Start problem

Post by DemonDuck » Sun Jan 15, 2012 2:13 am

I dont name my bikes. The only vehicle I ever named was my 67 mustang (mustang sally). And that was mainly for my daughter.... although my bike might have a name I just havent asked my kids about it.
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