Coolant Thread
Coolant Thread
Ok, since there's an oil filter and oil analysis and oil type thread, I figured I'd create a Coolant thread too.
1. Have you ever changed your coolant or are you still on factory?
2. What coolant brand do you currently use?
3. Do you use any coolant additives? No, I don't mean the leakstop stuff.
4. Have you noticed any real differences between types?
5. How often do you typically flush & fill your coolant?
1. Have you ever changed your coolant or are you still on factory?
2. What coolant brand do you currently use?
3. Do you use any coolant additives? No, I don't mean the leakstop stuff.
4. Have you noticed any real differences between types?
5. How often do you typically flush & fill your coolant?
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Re: Coolant Thread
1. Changed coolant in race bike and street bike.
2. Engine Ice is what I used to use.
3. Water Wetter.
4. Absolutely. When the outside temp was between 90 and 95, the bike's temp cruising temp was 189 degrees. When I switched to Engine Ice, I averaged 172 degree difference. When I added water wetter to the engine ice, I averaged 167 degree running temperature. With the Ninja, I averaged a crusing temp of 184 degrees. Engine ice + water wetter dropped it to 170.
5. The GXSR I only did it once, and then for racing purposes went to straight water + water wetter to be CMRA-legal. I only flushed it once since (before I sold it). On the Ninja I flushed and replaced a few months after I bought it (once it got hot in the summer). Sold it before doing it again.
2. Engine Ice is what I used to use.
3. Water Wetter.
4. Absolutely. When the outside temp was between 90 and 95, the bike's temp cruising temp was 189 degrees. When I switched to Engine Ice, I averaged 172 degree difference. When I added water wetter to the engine ice, I averaged 167 degree running temperature. With the Ninja, I averaged a crusing temp of 184 degrees. Engine ice + water wetter dropped it to 170.
5. The GXSR I only did it once, and then for racing purposes went to straight water + water wetter to be CMRA-legal. I only flushed it once since (before I sold it). On the Ninja I flushed and replaced a few months after I bought it (once it got hot in the summer). Sold it before doing it again.
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Re: Coolant Thread
1. just did two weeks ago.
2. engine ice
3. nope
3. yep cools much better
4. yes
5.i'm going to try once a year
2. engine ice
3. nope
3. yep cools much better
4. yes
5.i'm going to try once a year
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Re: Coolant Thread
Miles, you suck at following directions.
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Re: Coolant Thread
Miles follows directions like the average college student.
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Re: Coolant Thread
And counting.Firewa11 wrote:Miles, you suck at following directions.
Me: "Hey Miles, what comes after three?"
Miles: "Three!"
Me: *facepalm*
For you guys running Engine Ice, Water Wetter, etc., what are the antifreeze properties? Do you have to switch back to antifreeze in the winter time? How cold can those go before they freeze?
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Re: Coolant Thread
what directions, i answered the questions! very short answers, but it's still following directions
i didn't forget to sign my name!
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Re: Coolant Thread
Water Wetter can be added to any antifreeze / coolant for additional cooling ability without impacting it from protecting from freezing. Water wetter can be added to straight water for additional cooling ability as well. It's pretty much all you can run when racing, so voila.
Engine Ice has antifreeze capabilities and protects to -26' F. It's antifreeze base is still glycol based, which means it can be slippery if you crash on the track... It's just the non-toxic glycol (propylene instead of ethylene).
Engine Ice has antifreeze capabilities and protects to -26' F. It's antifreeze base is still glycol based, which means it can be slippery if you crash on the track... It's just the non-toxic glycol (propylene instead of ethylene).
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Re: Coolant Thread
FYI Rhino, water wetter is EXPENSIVE! The engine ice only cost me $25 to change it out, so i'm happy to do that once a year
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Re: Coolant Thread
Dude, no it's not. Water Wetter is like $10 for a good sized jug, and you only use like a capful or two at a time. Engine Ice is expensive, especially if you have to buy two jugs (my 750 and my zx10r both required a bit more than just one jug).
In fact I have a jug you can borrow some from if you want.
In fact I have a jug you can borrow some from if you want.
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Only ever changed coolant once and that was after the 650 caught a rock and bleed blue. That was also the first time I found out about engine ice, apparently the Daytona 650 came with it stock.
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Re: Coolant Thread
hmmm maybe i was looking at a different bottle. it was small, i would have had to of bought like 4 or five of them. and i didn't know about the capful or two at a time
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For about $12, I use water wetter and distilled water and change it whenever I feel it has served it's purpose. Being I dont ride in the winter and my girls sit in the garage, I dont worry about antifreeze.
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Re: Coolant Thread
I worried a bit about antifreeze last winter when it was in the teens at night. My garage isn't heated.
I was asking because the Triumph runs a little warm already and we're not anywhere near summer yet. I'm seeing temps around 225F when idling after running for a while with an ambient around 80F. That seems hot to me.
I was asking because the Triumph runs a little warm already and we're not anywhere near summer yet. I'm seeing temps around 225F when idling after running for a while with an ambient around 80F. That seems hot to me.
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That doesn't sound too high. Is the fan kicking on?
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Re: Coolant Thread
I've changed mine twice. Probably didn't need to do the second one, but it had been a year, and I just felt after all the track runs I had done the previous year, it needed it. I'm running Engine Ice, and it does run cooler, and I don't have to worry about antifreeze because it can handle a -26F
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Re: Coolant Thread
Same here with the race bikes. I had just water + water wetter for the last 3 winters and never had an issue. And I have an unheated, uninsulated garage.Grinner wrote:Being I dont ride in the winter and my girls sit in the garage, I dont worry about antifreeze.
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35,000+ miles and never changed the coolant. It's a Honda!
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Re: Coolant Thread
I'd say a coolant change for you would really keep temps down for you, but then again you have to actually ride your bike to take notice :0
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Honda's don't get hot. They are designed properly.
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Re: Coolant Thread
Hondas get plenty hot.
Your Honda doesn't get hot because it only gets ridden lightly when it's between 70 and 73 outside.
Your Honda doesn't get hot because it only gets ridden lightly when it's between 70 and 73 outside.
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Re: Coolant Thread
Rhino wrote:Hondas get plenty hot.
Your Honda doesn't get hot because it only gets ridden lightly when it's between 70 and 73 outside.
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Re: Coolant Thread
My GSXR runs 170-180 running normal down the road, never seen it go above 220, fan kicks on and the temp drops from there.
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The way I fixed that was put the cover on her and plug in a heating pad underneath as a just in case.Rhino wrote:I worried a bit about antifreeze last winter when it was in the teens at night. My garage isn't heated.
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