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Just got back from a trip out there, I like the national park side better for a number of reasons, but if your goal is to be isolated, then the state park side is your ticket. On the first night we had a neighbor (but still out of sight) then later, there were only 4 sites in use in the 311,000 acres. Once we left pavement it was about 3 hours to our campsite.

I like the camping better since I can reserve online and most sites have a fire pit, and covered picnic table but the roads leave a lot to be desired, I won't be taking the GS to the state park side.

https://www.facebook.com/rick.hornung/m ... 925&type=3

Did you have any wildlife surround your campsite this time?

A lot to be desired in terms of what? Too technical for the GS? Big rocks? Sand? Too easy? Not maintained?
(I don't see anything when I click your link)

Rick, you answered the question I have been asking of friends at work lately regarding state vs national park. I'm headed out to BB national park May 9th-13th. It would be nice if I had a "real" 4X4 for some of the rough roads, but since we will only have 3 days out there we will be doing a lot of hiking and cross into MX at Boquillas for lunch.

I dunno why the hell that link doesn't work, I have video too but it doesn't do it justice.

Tooner, on the national park side you can see a ton from paved roads - watch your shit the rangers there are pricks and it's a special federal ticket if you get busted speeding.
A stock 2wd truck with descent clearance can do most of the roads in the park with careful picking of lines, black gap is the one that can be a challenge and that depends on when you hit it and old ore looks easy till you get far into it and you start hitting some 4x4 stuff. When beck and I did it on the jeep it was insane, when Jim and I crossed it with bikes someone had piled up enough rock that it was no biggie.
Maveric road, river road (west and east) glenn springs, most of painted gap, I good part of grapevine hills etc can all be done 2wd. It hit 103 when we where there, this is the edge of big bend season for me.
If you've never been you need to do the max rosswell scenic drive - I'm probably butchering the shit out of the spelling.

Jeff - when we first turned off the 30 miles of washbaord I was like oh hell yea I'm bringing the GS down here then we came to our first big hill. It's covered in lose rock over powder, Jim and I dealt with that shit on black gap and it was a traction nightmare only on the state park side it's much steeper and taller. Then when you get into the valley most of the road isn't road, its just river bed. So remember that one river bed section on the way to camp that was deep soft gravel for like, I dunno, 50 yards? imagine MILES and MILES of that shit, it bogged the jeep down a bit you could feel it and hear it.

edit - when I say it was no biggie I mean the black gap itself in a 4x4 sense, the road itself on a GS was fucking hell, closest I've come to using my spot.

Testing pics post

This is one section up on the hill so no sand, pretty good traction here. Short of riding through growth a bike has the advantage on this section. The video was mounted flat to the hood for this so no gimbal on this section, does not do it justice on how steep and angled some of this is, the uranium mine road was sketchy but it looks fine and dandy in the video.

A stock jeep could do it, nothing technical just narrow, steep, and some sharp angles with tight turns.

Just tell youtube to bump it to 2x
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QsOQzYs0dXQ

Nice Rick. So the stabilization in the video was just the native GoPro stuff or did you post process?

JeffStrom wrote:Nice Rick. So the stabilization in the video was just the native GoPro stuff or did you post process?

On that video that's the GoPro Hero7 built in stabilization, I have other jeep videos that are gimbal that I need to cut and upload.

The best example of what a gimbal does are the raw big bend videos which I still need to upload.

fixxervi6 wrote: watch your shit the rangers there are pricks and it's a special federal ticket if you get busted speeding..

You probably just saved me a special federal ticket! Wow, 101* I hope its a dry heat, lol.... either way I will melt. LOts of great info, thanks!

Tooner wrote:

fixxervi6 wrote: watch your shit the rangers there are pricks and it's a special federal ticket if you get busted speeding..

You probably just saved me a special federal ticket! Wow, 101* I hope its a dry heat, lol.... either way I will melt. LOts of great info, thanks!

Depending on the local weather it's a very dry heat - single digit humidity so take a lot of water, then extra water, then more water. Temperature there can vary a ton depending on what part of the park your in and traveling to. If you stick to the Basin the temps will probably be pretty good, the lower regions will be hot. I have a hiking guide book, if we ever saw each other I'd let you check it out.

If you like geology you should hike tuff canyon, it's short but if you pay attention to the rock around you it's amazing, plan on hitting it early before the easy bake oven cooks you on the rocks. Burro Mesa trails are good for geology too, if your in a truck you should have no issues making it up old ore road to earnst tinajas, all good short hikes.

Here is one on a gimbal, this is las burras it gets pretty steep up at the top but you really can't tell but in a couple spots. The gimbal does a better job showing the left/right tilt but still doesn't show grade very well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DVYUNLSWkBI&t=27s