Fort Worth Motorcycle Riders

GRex wrote:Some of you need to go back and read the link I posted before you give advice. Here it is again: http://www.fortworthgov.org/municipalco ... px?id=5672.
The ticket was stated to be 25 over and in Fort Worth. Per the Fort Worth Municiple Court web page Driver Safety Training and Defferred Disposition only apply up to 24 mph over the limit .

yes i saw that on the back of the ticket to. Thats why I wanted to see if my recalibration thing could put me at 24mph or under.

GRex wrote:Some of you need to go back and read the link I posted before you give advice. Here it is again: http://www.fortworthgov.org/municipalco ... px?id=5672.
The ticket was stated to be 25 over and in Fort Worth. Per the Fort Worth Municiple Court web page Driver Safety Training and Defferred Disposition only apply up to 24 mph over the limit .

agreed, that is what they say, though you are still allowed to go before a judge and request the defensive driving route or deffered. Either way, best bet is to get the Lawyer, they will do what they can to try and dissmiss it, but at last resort they will always do everything they can to keep it off your record. You may still need to pay the fine if it is not dissmissed, but there is a good chance (if you have a lawyer) that it will not go on your record.

I don't think I've ever been given a ticket that was over the limit for defensive driving. I've been clocked over that magic 20 or 25mph over limit (depending on the county / city), but the cop has always written it down to where I can do defensive driving or whatever... That cop is a dick if he wouldn't fudge it down one point to help you out

from experience (not my own) even if a ticket does not go on your MVR record, it may still show up on your criminal, so if you apply for any jobs that require a clean MVR and they check backgrounds, you they may still see the ticket.

Blizzard_1708 wrote:from experience (not my own) even if a ticket does not go on your MVR record, it may still show up on your criminal, so if you apply for any jobs that require a clean MVR and they check backgrounds, you they may still see the ticket.

Hmmm... never heard that one before. I do know that my current employer required that I not have more than X amount of speeding tickets on my record. Proof of good moral, law-abiding citizen sort of stuff I think.

We disqualified quite a few drivers for having speeding violations on their criminal record within the last three years, but the tickets were not on their MVR.

R-Sen wrote: yes i saw that on the back of the ticket to. Thats why I wanted to see if my recalibration thing could put me at 24mph or under.

The recalibration thing is only for their radar guns. I'm going off memory here so I may not be entirly correct. But it's public record and you have the right to request from the city, their certificate of calibration for their radar guns. And from what I understand most cities don't keep track of those, and let them lapse, and if it's expired you can get your ticket dismissed. But you'd probably need a lawyer to go that route.

WillK675 wrote:

R-Sen wrote: yes i saw that on the back of the ticket to. Thats why I wanted to see if my recalibration thing could put me at 24mph or under.

The recalibration thing is only for their radar guns. I'm going off memory here so I may not be entirly correct. But it's public record and you have the right to request from the city, their certificate of calibration for their radar guns. And from what I understand most cities don't keep track of those, and let them lapse, and if it's expired you can get your ticket dismissed. But you'd probably need a lawyer to go that route.

The stuff I found was pretty much right along these same lines. Wait until a week before your trial date to give them less time to dig it up. The idea is to make your trial more and more work for everyone and eventually they'll realize you're more trouble than the fine you'll end up paying, and they'll drop it.

WillK675 wrote:

R-Sen wrote: yes i saw that on the back of the ticket to. Thats why I wanted to see if my recalibration thing could put me at 24mph or under.

The recalibration thing is only for their radar guns. I'm going off memory here so I may not be entirly correct. But it's public record and you have the right to request from the city, their certificate of calibration for their radar guns. And from what I understand most cities don't keep track of those, and let them lapse, and if it's expired you can get your ticket dismissed. But you'd probably need a lawyer to go that route.

With this being said, could I or would you guys ask to see the Radar Gun before you sign the ticket? Because like I said I was not moving much faster then the car I just passed, and when my scanner went off again I slowed down, but thats besides the point now. She saw my radar detector, I just dont know if they are supposed to keep the speed that they clocked you at just in case you want to see it. Thanks I thnk Ill do the lawyer thing to try and get it completely dismissed, and if not well hopefully he can try deffering it still. What gets me is I was prior military so im already very friendly and courteous and I was with her "cop" but no slack I even thought of that when I read the ticket and couldnt believe she didnt write it up for 84, so I could do defensive drivers stuff. Oh well, I learned my lesson. I just have to get out of that California Mentality that flow with traffic is ok. and that Lane Splitting is a no no out here..(kinda)

cops dont tend to give sport bikes a break out here, too many sport bikes run, and those of us who pull over take the heat for them.

Blizzard_1708 wrote:cops dont tend to give sport bikes a break out here, too many sport bikes run, and those of us who pull over take the heat for them.

*shrug*
I've got more warnings then tickets...

Blizzard_1708 wrote:cops dont tend to give sport bikes a break out here, too many sport bikes run, and those of us who pull over take the heat for them.

I was on the freeway when her lights turned on, me personally im not one for stopping on the free way so i put my blinkers on and pointed that i was exiting, and she took a defensive like position, not behind me on the exit ramp, but on the slow lane in the freeway still as if I might all of a sudden gun it down the freeway. Procedures and experience im guessing, but no running for me, I actually plan on doing Law Enforcement in my future. Ironic I know.

I've gotten pulled over twice in the past 4 years, got a ticket both times. Once in the truck, female officer, once on the bike, male officer. Guess I just dont have the knack for getting a warning.

In the metroplex, especially Grapevine / Irving, they'll give sporties tickets, but I think it's from all of the other groups giving sporties a bad name. Like, all of the bike nights that used to go on at the Whataburger, bringing hundreds of bikers doing stupid stuff... blocking freeways, etc... Outside of the city more, especially where I'm at, I've been cut more slack than I can count. And out in the sticks too, most of the time if they even bother to pull me over, it's for a finger-wag and a "you're gonna kill yourself" speech.

In fact, the only time I recall ever getting a citation for speeding on my bike was captured on film.

who is this?
same album of photos.

I think that was Terry's wife, probably shooting the last pic on the roll or something.

Ah Arkansas...good times, good times.

Last pic on the role? What is this, 1985? ha! I don't think it's his wife, no ring, but I don't know who else it could be so maybe it's her.

I think we need to plan an arkansas trip this year. I know some people are going to Barber, and might not be able to afford both, but some people are not going to Barber and might like an Ark trip instead.

I'll be doing Arkansas this year for sure. I haven't been in far too long.

I'm not making any big trip plans until I get out of debt. I'm just hoping my plan will work out. If it does I will probably do Arkansas.

alright, I'll keep it on the back burner and we can start discussing it more near the end of summer.

sckego wrote:

Blizzard_1708 wrote:cops dont tend to give sport bikes a break out here, too many sport bikes run, and those of us who pull over take the heat for them.

*shrug*
I've got more warnings then tickets...

I don't tend to get pulled over. . . but they want to

GRex, the only reason you get pulled over is so they ogle and find out what that thing your riding is.

oooh, Look at the castle!

Running is what the cops expect from crotch rockets ... ran into that with my last ticket. She was very appreciative of me stopping and wrote it for about 10 under the clock that she had recorded. If she had been a couple of miles down the road, the overage would have been closer to 100!

As for asking to see the radar gun, the most important advice I can offer to anyone on the board is to do EVERYTHING you can to not stand out in the officers memory. They have to tell the judge that they remember the specific incident ... NOT 'he/she looks familiar'.

Go with one of the lawyers that are known for taking the fees and getting you off unless you KNOW you can do the defensive driving thing (MSF level 2 works well for this ). I've done both ways ... fought it and hired Mallory. The lawyer approach was much less painfull.