March 2 - Primary
Heh, I love our silly little 19th century state...
http://texaslegislativeupdate.wordpress ... voter-i-d/
http://texaslegislativeupdate.wordpress ... voter-i-d/
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The problem here is this proposition opens the door for SERIOUS conflict. This is why there is seperation of church and state. Passing this proposition would be saying it's okay to allow the public recognition of the Christian God, and to put a big statue of Jesus on the courthouse steps, along with the 12th commandments written into the marble steps. Now what kind of message does that send when say a Muslim, Hindu, Jew, Athiest, Jedi, Scientologist, etc. has to walk up those courthouse steps and be judged inside or witness people being judged? Religous persecution. I know we're still in the 19th century here but come on!
I'm okay with them putting the 12 commandments in/on government buildings if I can have a huge 100ft tall bronze statue of Yoda erected in the middle of downtown with giant 12-foot tall letters proclaiming the "One True Prophet".
Or better yet... the Great Yogurt!
I'm okay with them putting the 12 commandments in/on government buildings if I can have a huge 100ft tall bronze statue of Yoda erected in the middle of downtown with giant 12-foot tall letters proclaiming the "One True Prophet".
Or better yet... the Great Yogurt!
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I think they are confusing this issue with 'freedom of religion'. The Founders wanted to keep religion out of politics so that the church wouldn't be in control of the government, as is was in England at the time. Just because you can't put a statue of Jesus on the lawn of City Hall doesn't mean you can't worship him.
Also, if you allow a statue of Jesus, I think you also have to allow statues of Budha, Allah and Satan to be erected.
Also, if you allow a statue of Jesus, I think you also have to allow statues of Budha, Allah and Satan to be erected.
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The funny thing about all of this is that this country and everything it began on was the belief of God. I personally have to say that it sure has fallen apart little by little since these kinds of things have come about and common sense has become common ignorance!
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Correction... it was founded on the belief that everyone should be able to choose to worship whatever god(s) they want, without fear of government persecution.Grinner wrote:The funny thing about all of this is that this country and everything it began on was the belief of God. I personally have to say that it sure has fallen apart little by little since these kinds of things have come about and common sense has become common ignorance!
Congress can't pass laws that create favor for one religion over another, and it can't prevent you from adhering to the religion of your choice. Now, how is this for interesting: it doesn't say anything about display of religious symbolism on public works/currency/whatever, so one could take that to mean that putting the Ten (Twelve?) Commandments up on the courthouse steps is just fine. However, as soon as you start passing laws that say "It is OK to put the Ten Commandments up on the courthouse steps," you are violating the 1st ammendment in that you just passed a law respecting one religion over another. I suppose if your law said "It is OK to put religious symbolism..." then it would be fine, since that isn't with respect to any particular religion.1st Ammendment wrote:Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
At least, that's how I read it... make sense to anyone else?
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Ahhh, shit!
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Have to make a correction here. Separation of Church and state is not in the constitution. And if you are referring to the 1st amendment, it prohibits the government from interfering with religion. There is nothing to the reverse affect in the constitution.Blizzard_1708 wrote:I gotta agree with you this time Firewa11. The separation of church and state was written into the consitution for a reason (mostly because they were being religiouslt prosecuted themselves)
Separation of church and state is very misconceived. The term was actually in a letter from Thomas Jefferson. And when he stated such, it was to the same affect of the First amendment. It is meant that the government should not be able to interfere with the freedom of religion. He did not mean it as to remove religion from the state.
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