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Re: Man creates life.......Synthetic

Post by Firewa11 » Thu May 27, 2010 7:38 am

I would make sweet love to one of those R2-D2's...
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Re: Man creates life.......Synthetic

Post by dufremle » Thu May 27, 2010 8:27 am

Firewa11 wrote:I would make sweet love to one of those R2-D2's...
If you hear 'baaaaaaaaa', stop.
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Post by Firewa11 » Thu May 27, 2010 8:31 am

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Firewa11 wrote:I would make sweet love to one of those R2-D2's...
If you hear 'baaaaaaaaa', stop.
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Re: Man creates life.......Synthetic

Post by sauter0966 » Thu May 27, 2010 8:54 am

so is the census man will make life the builds guns that blow sh** up?

Translation,


So does everyone think that man will end up creating life that will build guns to blow shite up?
Kinda like the carbon nano tubes forming together to make usefull things by themselves.
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Re: Man creates life.......Synthetic

Post by dufremle » Thu May 27, 2010 8:57 am

Sauter0966 wrote:so is the census man will make life the builds guns that blow sh** up?
What?
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Re: Man creates life.......Synthetic

Post by Firewa11 » Thu May 27, 2010 9:40 am

Sauter0966 wrote:so is the census man will make life the builds guns that blow sh** up?
English Motherfraker, do you speak it?
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Post by Grinner » Thu May 27, 2010 11:30 am

Firewa11 wrote:
Sauter0966 wrote:so is the census man will make life the builds guns that blow sh** up?
English Motherfraker, do you speak it?
If he's havin anywhere near the week I am, then your pretty phuc'n lucky with what you got!!!
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Re: Man creates life.......Synthetic

Post by sauter0966 » Thu May 27, 2010 11:58 am

Firewa11 wrote:
Sauter0966 wrote:so is the census man will make life the builds guns that blow sh** up?
English Motherfraker, do you speak it?

English is my second language my first is southernease.
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Re: Man creates life.......Synthetic

Post by Firewa11 » Thu May 27, 2010 12:21 pm

That doesn't qualify as southernese, that qualifies as What. And What ain't no country I ever heard of.

As far as your question, now that you've reformulated it, we already have robots building weapons. I don't see bacteria creating weapons.

On the evolutionary scale, bacteria / microbes are the earliest and simplest form of life. You've got 3.5+ billion years of evolution to get to life forms that are capable of sentient thought, use of tools and weapons, etc. We're not even a glimmer in that timeline.

If you were to stretch out a line 270 feet long, representing the 3.5 billion years that simple microbial life has been present on this earth, then 1 inch would be about 1 million years. And humans in our present form only started showing up in the fossil record for the last 1/5th of an inch of that line (200,000 years ago).

And our ancestors didn't start using tools and weapons until about 20,000 years ago in the fossil records.

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That all being said, we can most certainly develop synthetic life based on life that surrounds us, but to actually create life from scratch, to get to the point that it can start killing other life and / or us with manufactured weapons? It's got a long, long way to go.

And the closest thing we can do with genetics at this point is poke around with flipping switches and turning certain protein combinations (genetic markers) on and off. But there is no fine grain control in genetics. Life didn't evolve that way, and you can't cheat the complex rules of engineering life. Simple life is easy, which is what these scientists created. Complex life is not.

What scares me more than anything about scientists tinkering with creating simple forms of life, is that the most simple forms of life are the deadliest to all existing life on earth. Most strains of bacteria and viruses are some of the simplest forms of life on earth, but the most deadly. More people throughout history have died from viruses and bacteria than any other way, by a long, long shot.
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Post by dufremle » Thu May 27, 2010 12:36 pm

What?

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Re: Man creates life.......Synthetic

Post by sauter0966 » Thu May 27, 2010 1:16 pm

Firewa11 wrote:That doesn't qualify as southernese, that qualifies as What. And What ain't no country I ever heard of.

As far as your question, now that you've reformulated it, we already have robots building weapons. I don't see bacteria creating weapons.

On the evolutionary scale, bacteria / microbes are the earliest and simplest form of life. You've got 3.5+ billion years of evolution to get to life forms that are capable of sentient thought, use of tools and weapons, etc. We're not even a glimmer in that timeline.

If you were to stretch out a line 270 feet long, representing the 3.5 billion years that simple microbial life has been present on this earth, then 1 inch would be about 1 million years. And humans in our present form only started showing up in the fossil record for the last 1/5th of an inch of that line (200,000 years ago).

And our ancestors didn't start using tools and weapons until about 20,000 years ago in the fossil records.

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That all being said, we can most certainly develop synthetic life based on life that surrounds us, but to actually create life from scratch, to get to the point that it can start killing other life and / or us with manufactured weapons? It's got a long, long way to go.

And the closest thing we can do with genetics at this point is poke around with flipping switches and turning certain protein combinations (genetic markers) on and off. But there is no fine grain control in genetics. Life didn't evolve that way, and you can't cheat the complex rules of engineering life. Simple life is easy, which is what these scientists created. Complex life is not.

What scares me more than anything about scientists tinkering with creating simple forms of life, is that the most simple forms of life are the deadliest to all existing life on earth. Most strains of bacteria and viruses are some of the simplest forms of life on earth, but the most deadly. More people throughout history have died from viruses and bacteria than any other way, by a long, long shot.
on evolution, man started the lab testing to do this only in the past 40 years or so the time scale would seem to equal 30 years of mans tinkering is equal to roughly 2 billion of natures years assuming that earth is 4 billion years old and life came about after 2 billion, so in 30 more years we should be able to make us, kinda creepy. side note time will kill us all eventually.

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Re: Man creates life.......Synthetic

Post by Firewa11 » Thu May 27, 2010 1:50 pm

No, earth is about 4-4.5 billion years old, life started appearing between 4 and 3.5 billion years ago.

What the scientists did was create life on par of what started 3.5 billion years ago. The timeline started when they first created life. So, let's see if they are faster and create a humanoid life form that can manufacturer tools and kill us faster than 3.5 billion years.
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Post by sauter0966 » Thu May 27, 2010 2:01 pm

Firewa11 wrote:No, earth is about 4-4.5 billion years old, life started appearing between 4 and 3.5 billion years ago.

What the scientists did was create life on par of what started 3.5 billion years ago. The timeline started when they first created life. So, let's see if they are faster and create a humanoid life form that can manufacturer tools and kill us faster than 3.5 billion years.
Ok Polls are now open, 5:1 says we blow are selves up before we create life that will stop it from happening. Any takers?
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Post by Firewa11 » Thu May 27, 2010 2:45 pm

I'm thinking we'll blow ourselves up after we run out of natural resources and start fighting... over... them... like...... oil........
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Post by U-Turn » Thu May 27, 2010 2:51 pm

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Post by U-Turn » Thu May 27, 2010 2:52 pm

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I think it's Great !
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Re: Man creates life.......Synthetic

Post by sauter0966 » Fri May 28, 2010 7:04 am

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I think it's Great !
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Soon we'll all be able to buy our own Cherry 2000 !
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Post by U-Turn » Sat May 29, 2010 10:21 pm

But first I'll probably need the Doctor to grow me a new liver. I've abused the one I have a lot. Probably will need a new one before the rest of my stuff wears out.
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Post by U-Turn » Sat May 29, 2010 10:23 pm

Sauter0966 wrote:Ok Polls are now open, 5:1 says we blow are selves up before we create life that will stop it from happening. Any takers?
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Your ignoring the other major human activity of anything new, porn.
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