ECR construction
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ECR construction
Just saw over on MotoDFW, and the ECR calendar seems to validate it. ECR is shutting down June-Aug. and are repaving as well as modifying the track. Sounds like they are going to try a setup where they have to individual tracks that can also be joined together like at MSR. I can't picture how they can do that without quite a bit of new construction and there is no way 3 months would be enough time, but we'll see what happens. Should be interesting at the very least.
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Re: ECR construction
Good, cause last time I was there on the corner the track was so bad I said I'd never go back.
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Re: ECR construction
I thought ECR was originally set up as two configurations. Maybe they weren't designed to run concurrently. I don't remember now.
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Re: ECR construction
I was riding at ECR this weekend, and the track administration confirmed that they are shutting down to have the track redone. They did not mention to what extend they are going to repair and customize the track, but it is planned. If the work is done properly, then ECR could become an awesome track.
That said, I'll believe it when I see it.
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Re: ECR construction
Yeah, they have two track configuration options now, but it's still just a single track. The guy on MotoDFW got the impression that they are going to make it so they have two individual tracks that can be joined so just like Cresson there could be two events running at the same time.dufremle wrote:I thought ECR was originally set up as two configurations. Maybe they weren't designed to run concurrently. I don't remember now.
Also looks like RS will be the first open event on the new setup.
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Re: ECR construction
Same here. I got to ride on the track when it was brand spanking new and it was amazing. Went back 2-3 months later, and it was already in rough shape. I haven't ridden on that track now since 2008, and even back then it was shit. I can't imagine the last 7 years have been kind to it.Striple wrote: That said, I'll believe it when I see it.
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Re: ECR construction
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If you look at a satellite map, you can see the cutover where they had originally designed the track to be shortened to cut out the long back straights, but it wasn't designed to run as two separate tracks like Cresson was. Either way, 3 months is not going to be enough time for them to resurface and fix the track. The only way they are going to salvage ECR is to rebuild the corners by ripping them up, putting down concrete, then paving on top of that. Unless they are dumping in several million to expedite the work on top of the actual cost of doing so, there just won't be enough time. I would say expect more patch work and a redesigned crossover.
If you look at a satellite map, you can see the cutover where they had originally designed the track to be shortened to cut out the long back straights, but it wasn't designed to run as two separate tracks like Cresson was. Either way, 3 months is not going to be enough time for them to resurface and fix the track. The only way they are going to salvage ECR is to rebuild the corners by ripping them up, putting down concrete, then paving on top of that. Unless they are dumping in several million to expedite the work on top of the actual cost of doing so, there just won't be enough time. I would say expect more patch work and a redesigned crossover.
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Re: ECR construction
Holy crap, just watched this vid from February. Damn, I cannot believe how much patchwork they have done out there, and how bouncy it is. Nasty!
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Re: ECR construction
It seriously reminds me of a FM road
I joked that they need to just chip seal it so we feel at home.
I joked that they need to just chip seal it so we feel at home.
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Re: ECR construction
It definitely feels like an FM road. The bumps are only one part of the problem, the water seepage is actually the bigger issue. I didn't see any weeping spots this weekend, but there was water that had collected in the usual spots (T2 & T5). T6 is bumpy on the outside, but at least the weepers that usually show up in that turn were entirely absent. The back straight is bumpy and wavy, but at least you're straight and up and down at that point. The weeper in T8 was also absent, although I was told that it still rears its ugly head from time to time. The entry to T9 is bumpy as it has always been, and T11 was wet until the afternoon. The track is definitely rideable, although I would not be excited about racing on it in its current condition.
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Re: ECR construction
Firewa11 wrote:Same here. I got to ride on the track when it was brand spanking new and it was amazing. Went back 2-3 months later, and it was already in rough shape. I haven't ridden on that track now since 2008, and even back then it was shit. I can't imagine the last 7 years have been kind to it.Striple wrote: That said, I'll believe it when I see it.
Agree 110% Everytime I've been at ECR, I've been super uncomfortable at the condition of the track and have refused to go back until it's fixed, or that I become half the rider that Striple is!
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Yes, seeing that first-hand is rather sobering, and impressive.El Diabro wrote:...or that I become half the rider that Striple is!
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Re: ECR construction
It only seems that way when you're still new to the track. You should have seen Fixxer, Rhino, and myself on our first track day! We were having a slowest-rider contest, and we were all winning!
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Got video?
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Thankfully not!! LOL!!
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Cars! What are you gonna do. Just get rid of the friggin' cars. Off the highway, off the track. Life is then better...or at least safer.Firewa11 wrote:I got to ride on the track when it was brand spanking new and it was amazing. Went back 2-3 months later, and it was already in rough shape.
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I'm pretty sure I out-slowed you guys. I passed exactly one bike that whole day.Striple wrote:It only seems that way when you're still new to the track. You should have seen Fixxer, Rhino, and myself on our first track day! We were having a slowest-rider contest, and we were all winning!
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Was that the one stuck in the mud?
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I've got the Striple truck tour video of ECR done to post, but apparently not enough bandwidth where I am to upload it. Maybe tonight. I'm sure it will bring back some kind of memories for someone.
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Even worse--I tend to park it in the turns!LonestarCBR wrote:FYI, he's slow as Christmas in the truck, go figure.
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Heh, I remember back in those days, now you're all faster than me. Well except Dave, but that's because he rides a couch now. And Will rides his old couch.Striple wrote:It only seems that way when you're still new to the track. You should have seen Fixxer, Rhino, and myself on our first track day! We were having a slowest-rider contest, and we were all winning!
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It's better than a litercouch.Firewa11 wrote:Heh, I remember back in those days, now you're all faster than me. Well except Dave, but that's because he rides a couch now. And Will rides his old couch.Striple wrote:It only seems that way when you're still new to the track. You should have seen Fixxer, Rhino, and myself on our first track day! We were having a slowest-rider contest, and we were all winning!
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That was just wrong.
But funny as hell.
But funny as hell.
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Re: ECR construction
LonestarCBR wrote:Got video?
Don't speak so soon! I think I may have some footage of you guys. I remember sitting at Grinners afterwards and watching it on his big screen. I need to see if I can find it.Striple wrote:Thankfully not!! LOL!!
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I can neither confirm nor deny whether he had a mechanical...DarcShadow wrote:Was that the one stuck in the mud?