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Re: MSR Cresson July 16th Track Day, OMFG Firewa11's Back Ba

Post by fixxervi6 » Wed Jun 15, 2011 9:50 pm

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No but I have been in the hospital more than once on an IV with heat stroke, no fun
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Re: MSR Cresson July 16th Track Day, OMFG Firewa11's Back Ba

Post by Firewa11 » Thu Jun 16, 2011 8:27 am

I've done plenty of hot summer track days. It will likely be in the mid 90 / upper 90's, but it doesn't hit that until after 1-2pm. I'm usually done by 3pm anyways, so no biggie. As long as you drink plenty of water and gatorade you're ok. I'd rather do a hot track day than a cold track day. Mmmm... sticky tires....
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Re: MSR Cresson July 16th Track Day, OMFG Firewa11's Back Ba

Post by Rhino » Thu Jun 16, 2011 8:51 am

I went ahead and signed up for Saturday, level 1.

I'm excited to get back on the 1.7 and finally see how I do when I'm riding a track I've been on once instead of having to spend all morning learning the track.

I may sign up for corner working on Sunday if they have spots open, haven't decided yet. At the rate I'm doing track days, I probably need to start working the corner to pay for them.

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Re: MSR Cresson July 16th Track Day, OMFG Firewa11's Back Ba

Post by Grinner » Thu Jun 16, 2011 11:18 am

Ill be workin corners on sat the 16th!

As far as hydrating, make sure you start the hydration process the day before and then maintain it throughout the day of.
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Re: MSR Cresson July 16th Track Day, OMFG Firewa11's Back Ba

Post by WillK675 » Thu Jun 16, 2011 11:52 am

Grinner wrote:As far as hydrating, make sure you start the hydration process the day before
Yup, need to do what marathon runners do. They call it cell loading. You start 24 to 48 hours prior. And if I remember correctly it's 4ounces of water every hour, that the body can process and retain water in your cells. Anything more than that, and your just pissing it away. Then you continue hydrating during your heavy physical activity, and the body uses what your taking in, and then pulls from the cells for anything more that is needed.

And always remember. If your not sweating, or pissing at a trackday, your already behind on hydration and there is no catching up. You might as well sit the rest of the day out, and try to get rehydrated.
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Re: MSR Cresson July 16th Track Day, OMFG Firewa11's Back Ba

Post by milesmiles » Thu Jun 16, 2011 12:01 pm

WillK675 wrote:
Grinner wrote:As far as hydrating, make sure you start the hydration process the day before
Yup, need to do what marathon runners do. They call it cell loading. You start 24 to 48 hours prior. And if I remember correctly it's 4ounces of water every hour, that the body can process and retain water in your cells. Anything more than that, and your just pissing it away. Then you continue hydrating during your heavy physical activity, and the body uses what your taking in, and then pulls from the cells for anything more that is needed.

And always remember. If your not sweating, or pissing at a trackday, your already behind on hydration and there is no catching up. You might as well sit the rest of the day out, and try to get rehydrated.
Good info will, i'm going to look more into this. I also know it has to do with your electrolites. So i think its like half gatoraide, half water...something along those lines
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Re: MSR Cresson July 16th Track Day, OMFG Firewa11's Back Ba

Post by WillK675 » Thu Jun 16, 2011 12:07 pm

The loading deal I think is just water. The staying hydrated they say half water, half gatorade; and thats because of the sugars and stuff in gatorade, you can't rely just on it, you need water also.
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Post by Rhino » Thu Jun 16, 2011 12:54 pm

Grinner wrote:Ill be workin corners on sat the 16th!
How many credits have you got now? And would you be willing to sell some?

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Re: MSR Cresson July 16th Track Day, OMFG Firewa11's Back Ba

Post by Dragonfly » Thu Jun 16, 2011 8:48 pm

WillK675 wrote:The loading deal I think is just water. The staying hydrated they say half water, half gatorade; and thats because of the sugars and stuff in gatorade, you can't rely just on it, you need water also.
I been told two bottles of water to every one bottle gatorade. Other wise you take in too many electrolites, and the symptoms are very similar to dehydration/heat stroke.
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Post by NickS » Fri Jun 17, 2011 10:50 am

I am shooting to make this. I need to purchase and install sliders and pay the bike off. It's gonna be tight, but I think I can swing it.
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Re: MSR Cresson July 16th Track Day, OMFG Firewa11's Back Ba

Post by Grinner » Fri Jun 17, 2011 11:32 am

Dave wrote:
Grinner wrote:Ill be workin corners on sat the 16th!
How many credits have you got now? And would you be willing to sell some?
I have one credit right now and will have two more by Oct 2.
How bout $110/credit?
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Post by Rhino » Fri Jun 17, 2011 12:11 pm

Heck, now I'm going to have to decide if I want to run at ECR again. It's only 2 weeks before Barber, so it's kind of iffy. If I crash, I'll be fresh out of bikes for Barber.

I may hit you up for a credit in October. :D

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Post by Grinner » Fri Jun 17, 2011 1:12 pm

sall good! Lemme know.
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Re: MSR Cresson July 16th Track Day, OMFG Firewa11's Back Ba

Post by DarcShadow » Fri Jun 17, 2011 2:06 pm

Anyone thinking about doing the 1.3 on Sunday? I'd rather not be the only one out there. :(
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Post by Rhino » Fri Jun 17, 2011 2:14 pm

DarcShadow wrote:Anyone thinking about doing the 1.3 on Sunday? I'd rather not be the only one out there. :(
I thought about it, but I was pretty worn out after doing both days last time, and that was only riding until lunch on Sunday. My body position was horrible while fighting sore muscles. I think for now I learn more just doing one day at a time.

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Post by dufremle » Fri Jun 17, 2011 2:36 pm

NickS wrote:I am shooting to make this. I need to purchase and install sliders and pay the bike off. It's gonna be tight, but I think I can swing it.
I wouldn't waste money on sliders. They really only help if the bike falls over at a stop.
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Post by milesmiles » Fri Jun 17, 2011 2:42 pm

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Post by Rhino » Fri Jun 17, 2011 3:16 pm

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NickS wrote:I am shooting to make this. I need to purchase and install sliders and pay the bike off. It's gonna be tight, but I think I can swing it.
I wouldn't waste money on sliders. They really only help if the bike falls over at a stop.
They help more with naked bikes. Nick's Z1000 wouldn't be sliding on plastics in a crash, it would be sliding on engine components.

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Post by DarcShadow » Fri Jun 17, 2011 4:38 pm

Yeah, there's a bit of a debate if frame sliders are worth it for track use. If the bike goes down and stays on the track, they do an ok job. But if the bike goes off the track the sliders have a tendance to dig into the grass and cause the bike to flip causing more damage. Granted a naked bike has plenty of stuff to catch and dig in so either way you're pretty much hosed. Best bet...just don't go down.
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Post by Striple » Fri Jun 17, 2011 4:50 pm

I certainly appreciate theory, but in the case of crash protectors - be that frame sliders or engine case sliders - my approach is to protect the bike as much as possible (without compromising performance).

My lowside at Cresson last month would certainly have been significantly worse for the bike, hadn't it been for the frame sliders!
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Post by Rhino » Fri Jun 17, 2011 7:46 pm

Striple wrote:My lowside at Cresson last month would certainly have been significantly worse for the bike, hadn't it been for the frame sliders!
I'm not so sure, you got a pretty good layer of protective mud built up over, well, everything. :-)

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Post by Striple » Fri Jun 17, 2011 8:13 pm

Dave wrote:I'm not so sure, you got a pretty good layer of protective mud built up over, well, everything. :-)
Even with impact on dirt, without sliders the radiator would have toast, along with a few other expensive components. It definitely would have been a far cry from the $130 bucks it cost me to get the bike back to pre-crash condition.
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Post by Rhino » Fri Jun 17, 2011 8:19 pm

Oh I know, just giving you a hard time. :D

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Post by dufremle » Fri Jun 17, 2011 8:24 pm

My main problem with them is, depending on how they mount, they can cause more damage than not having them. If you get them make sure they do not mount to the engine or to an engine mount.
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Post by NickS » Fri Jun 17, 2011 11:39 pm

What about these?

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I like that they have 2 mounting points, and they look like they would give in an impact, rather than transferring shock straight to the frame. Crazy?
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