ECR Roll Call July 7-8

[Rhino]

Working on the 8th, Track Marshal.

Sweet! Looking forward to working with you. You'll have a half-FWMR crew.

Oh, and dibs on turn 6!

[Telomere]

Working on the 8th, Track Marshal.

Sweet! Looking forward to working with you. You'll have a half-FWMR crew.

Oh, and dibs on turn 6!

Same here. I don't care what corner I am working as long as I am NOT camera bitch

[WillK675]

Your also skinny compared to me, being fat makes a huge difference in the heat. I've lost 5lbs, 20 more to go, so maybe next summer I won't be such a lil bitch about the heat.

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Miles has it right. Hydration is key. When I don't hydrate properly, I feel like I'm gonna die in the heat. When I do hydrate properly, I can tolerate the heat just fine. I can even feel the difference when I'm teaching--as my hydration starts to slip, it feels hotter. As I catch back up, it doesn't feel so bad.

When I was camera bitch at MSRC this month I drank 6 liters of water, and I was mostly standing in the shade and it wasn't that hot. I figure that next time I'm riding, I'll need more like 9 liters since I'll be sweating so much more. If you're not drinking that much water, I suggest trying to properly hydrate before spending $500 on something that isn't going to help any more than dunking your cooling vest in ice water before going on the track.

I piss between each session, I'm not having hydration issues.

I've never been able to handle the heat, even back when I was a 185lbs mountain biking machine made of wood I had more than one trip to the hospital, and I was pissing plenty of clear urin and I was still having to be cold packed and put on an IV.

When I wear my mesh and evap I can handle higher temps because the evap works with mesh. In leather I get like 3 laps in and I just cook.

An evap vest on the track, a cool towel off, and staying hydrated should be all you need. The evap is not going to make you feel cool on the track, but it does help keep your core temperature down. Those three should work just as well/better as a veskimo and are a hell of a lot cheaper. If that's not working for you, and you are still having problems, it almost sounds like a circulatory problem, and you may want to talk to your doc.

[Striple]

An evap vest on the track, a cool towel off, and staying hydrated should be all you need. The evap is not going to make you feel cool on the track, but it does help keep your core temperature down. Those three should work just as well/better as a veskimo and are a hell of a lot cheaper. If that's not working for you, and you are still having problems, it almost sounds like a circulatory problem, and you may want to talk to your doc.

Dude, I almost forgot that you ride the track as well!

[WillK675]

An evap vest on the track, a cool towel off, and staying hydrated should be all you need. The evap is not going to make you feel cool on the track, but it does help keep your core temperature down. Those three should work just as well/better as a veskimo and are a hell of a lot cheaper. If that's not working for you, and you are still having problems, it almost sounds like a circulatory problem, and you may want to talk to your doc.

Dude, I almost forgot that you ride the track as well!

I've put my fair share of time on the track. Just hadn't been able to financially this year.

[Telomere]

I have used just the evap vest (both on track and between sessions) and drinking plenty of fluids (water and gatorade) and I felt a lot better when the phase change was brought into the equation. I would be willing to try the Veskimo too. Anything that helps to keep my core temp down during a Texas trackday, is worth me spending my money on because at the end of the day when I go home, only I know how the equipment I used during that day to keep me cool has affected me and that is all that matters. You guys can go on say I am a wuss or I am not doing someting right or I am not drinking plenty of fluids (which just keeps me hydrated and does not keep my core temp down), but you are not me. If I choose to spend my money (or Fixxer's ) and a veskimo, then so be it, that is how I choose to spend my money. Say what ever you want, I don't care...I am big girl now ...I can handle it (and I love you guys) Plus, I will let you LOOK at it...if you are lucky enough

[Striple]

An evap vest on the track, a cool towel off, and staying hydrated should be all you need. The evap is not going to make you feel cool on the track, but it does help keep your core temperature down. Those three should work just as well/better as a veskimo and are a hell of a lot cheaper. If that's not working for you, and you are still having problems, it almost sounds like a circulatory problem, and you may want to talk to your doc.

Dude, I almost forgot that you ride the track as well!

I've put my fair share of time on the track. Just hadn't been able to financially this year.

Haha - I know. I'm just yanking your chain.

[Telomere]

Haha - I know. I'm just yanking your chain.

Hey now!!! Will is tracking it next month. Give the man a break will ya?

[Striple]

Haha - I know. I'm just yanking your chain.

Hey now!!! Will is tracking it next month. Give the man a break will ya?

He is my sponsor. As such, we're required to kick each other in the nuts every now and again. Its healthy.

[Telomere]

Gotta leave some nuts to have some to kick around

[Striple]

Plenty of nuts around.

True.

[Telomere]

[fixxervi6]

An evap vest on the track, a cool towel off, and staying hydrated should be all you need. The evap is not going to make you feel cool on the track, but it does help keep your core temperature down. Those three should work just as well/better as a veskimo and are a hell of a lot cheaper. If that's not working for you, and you are still having problems, it almost sounds like a circulatory problem, and you may want to talk to your doc.

Sure, that stuff is enough to keep me out of the hospital, but it's not enough that the heat doesn't kick my focus in the rear end, focus drifts, crashes happen, the heat impacts my focus real bad.

My research - which includes speaking with people that have actually used multiple cooling devices and compared them, such as evap, phase change, and veskimo - does not agree with what you say here, care to share the facts that you've drawn these conclusions from?

circulatory problem? how do you figure, what symptoms am I displaying to make you think I have a circulatory problem?

[Grinner]

If I remember right, it would be high blood pressure. Either way, what he is referring to is slow circulation which reduces the capabilities of the blood to cool as it goes round. Look at your circulatory system just like the cooling system on your bike or car. When the thermostat shuts, the coolant stops flowing or slows and lets the motor heat up to help maintain proper operating temperature. Thus...high blood pressure results in a blown head gasket and low blood pressure results in improper combustion flame front.

However you look at it, it wouldnt hurt to get checked out also as a consideration.

[Dragonfly]

High blood pressure increases your risk for heat exhaustion and heat stroke as well.

[fixxervi6]

My blood pressure has always been low, I was at the doc last month and both the upper and lower numbers were low. I get this 25lbs off I bet it will help a lot.

[Rhino]

An evap vest on the track, a cool towel off, and staying hydrated should be all you need. The evap is not going to make you feel cool on the track, but it does help keep your core temperature down. Those three should work just as well/better as a veskimo and are a hell of a lot cheaper. If that's not working for you, and you are still having problems, it almost sounds like a circulatory problem, and you may want to talk to your doc.

Dude, I almost forgot that you ride the track as well!

Nah, that's just Miles hunched down.

[Rhino]

You guys gotta remember--this is Fixxer we're talking to. If there's a way to throw money at a problem, he'll find it.

[fixxervi6]

You guys gotta remember--this is Fixxer we're talking to. If there's a way to throw money at a problem, he'll find it.

Well, step one is to dump the wight, I'm down 6lbs and that hasn't cost me any money

[Rhino]

Yeah, fair enough.

The awesome thing about losing weight as a motorcyclist--every pound has a pretty significant impact on the power-to-weight ratio of your bike.

[milesmiles]

I could be wrong, but i heard for every 7lbs = 1hp just a rumor i heard. So back on subject, i'm still trying to make this, i'm thinking about buyin a used tire to do so. I'm going to padre in july for a mini vacation with some friends, trying to do two track days and at the beginning of august i'm going to austin for a few days....i'm a busy man with no money!!!

[WillK675]

Well grinner hit my point with the medical part of it. If your doing everything you can to keep your core temp down, and the heat is hitting you that easily that quickly, then it could be a medical condition. If it's mostly focus, it could be due to the low blood pressure, and not getting enough blood flow to the brain during those times. Or it could be not cooling, etc... And your right, it could just be the need to drop some weight.

[Striple]

Or it could just be because it gets freakin' hot! I work hard to pass all of my medicals with flying colors, I hydrate like a thirsty camel, and yes - it still gets hot as hell. Working outside makes it easier to adapt to that heat, but this year I've been holed up inside the lab or starring at a computer screen all day. Lots of factors do make a difference, but I'm not sure I buy into the whole "I just do xyz, and everything is cool, even at 100+" -idea. Doing all the right things will help you manage the heat, but even then its never quite the pleasant experience that people sometimes like to insinuate.

[milesmiles]

but I'm not sure I buy into the whole "I just do xyz, and everything is cool, even at 100+" -idea. Doing all the right things will help you manage the heat, but even then its never quite the pleasant experience that people sometimes like to insinuate.

, but i do my best to make it a pleasant experience!!! To be honest i've been held up inside a lot this summer as well and i'm curious as to how i will handle it with older age and such...

[Dragonfly]

It ain't summer, yet! We're still in spring, summer doesn't begin for at least another week!

You know it's summer in Texas when you see the white people melting and/or spontaneously combust!