Aus gun buy back

[fixxervi6]

[nitzer]

Same thing has happened in Britain. Crime has gone up.

[Stardog82]

Scary

[shilka99]

This law was enacted as a knee jerk reaction to the terrible massacre in Port Arthur in 1996. Of course the law wasnt thought out and was poorly written. Even the Australian Olympic shooting teams had to fight hard to keep their guns. Lucky they did - an Aussie won gold at skeet shooting just a few months after the government tried to take his shotguns.

"The Port Arthur massacre of 28 April 1996 was a killing spree in which 35 people were killed and 23 wounded, mainly at the historic[1] Port Arthur prison colony, a popular tourist site in south-eastern Tasmania, Australia.[2] Martin Bryant, a 28-year-old from New Town, a suburb of Hobart, eventually plead guilty to the crimes and was given 35 life sentences without possibility of parole.[3] He is now imprisoned in the Wilfred Lopes Centre near Risdon Prison.[4]
Port Arthur massacre remains one of the deadliest shootings worldwide committed by a single person.[5] Gun control laws in Australia, which had been relatively lenient before the massacre, were reviewed and tightened significantly after the incident."

[Striple]

Actually, there is no evidence that the 1996 gun ownership reform in Australia had any effect on crime rates. There has been no consensus among the few peer-reviewed studies that have investigated this issue, and most of them were published by authors with strong political affiliations and vested interest in the matter. Pick your advocate, and their interpretations (of the same data set, by the way) were unsurprisingly congruent with their convictions. One recent inquiry by authors with no obvious political affiliations found no effect of the reform on homicides and suicides.

Any other claims that appear from time to time in the media (like the video clip posted here) are not based on anything, and are little more than propaganda being spread by either side (in this case by the pro-gun lobby).

The case in Britain that Derek brought up was also different. Both sides of the fence have been tossing descriptive statistics around, which are essentially meaningless without a proper inquiry using the appropriate multi-variate approach to attempt to isolate a causal relationship between one of the many legislative acts and any of these numbers.

By the way, I grew up with guns and am very supportive of people's rights to own guns. I just cannot stand the media's BS, and this is one of those cases.

[nitzer]

I'm waiting for the Obama administration to go after ours....regardless of the gun laws of other countries.

[DemonDuck]

It won't happen here in the US. If it did then there would be another civil war.... and it wouldn't be very civil.

[nitzer]

And I thought he wouldn't get elected again too... See how that went?

[Telomere]

And I thought he wouldn't get elected again too... See how that went?

Because elections are staged to make the people think they actually have a say in who becomes president.

[Rhino]

I'm waiting for the Obama administration to go after ours....regardless of the gun laws of other countries.

That's ridiculous.

Don't you think he would have in the last 4 years if he was going to?

Seriously, enough of this NRA boogeyman bulls***.

[fixxervi6]

I'm waiting for the Obama administration to go after ours....regardless of the gun laws of other countries.

That's ridiculous.

Don't you think he would have in the last 4 years if he was going to?

Seriously, enough of this NRA boogeyman bulls***.

Did Clinton put the ban out in the first or second term?

[DarcShadow]

Lets just make things simple and ban guns from being manufactured for anyone world wide. Would make wars interesting, nukes and swords.

[dufremle]

I'm waiting for the Obama administration to go after ours....regardless of the gun laws of other countries.

That's ridiculous.

Don't you think he would have in the last 4 years if he was going to?

Seriously, enough of this NRA boogeyman bulls***.

No. He needed to be re-elected first. Now he can do whatever he wants without worrying about another election.

[nitzer]

Which is why Obama will go after them now. Second term = no re-election to worry about.

Lifetime member of the NRA...

[WillK675]

Actually he did go after them. I don't know the exact laws (or if they even passed for that matter) but there are things he did in the back ground to try to take them. One starting with removing the rights of veterans to own. There were proposals of any verteran under any VA care would have to surrender all firearms. Believe it or not, Obama want's them gone, how he goes about trying to make it happen is another story.

And our goverment taking our firearms is not going to be just one failing swoop. They know that would cause civil war, and they know they can't enforce it. They don't have the manpower. The only way they could do it, would be with the help of foriegn entities, and their military (and Clinton tested the waters on that one), and it's not going to happen. It's going to be a slow nit-pick this/that until they have taken as much as they can. Then it'll be the wide spread collection for the last bit of them.

[milesmiles]

And our goverment taking our firearms is not going to be just one failing swoop. They know that would cause civil war, and they know they can't enforce it. They don't have the manpower. The only way they could do it, would be with the help of foriegn entities, and their military (and Clinton tested the waters on that one), and it's not going to happen. It's going to be a slow nit-pick this/that until they have taken as much as they can. Then it'll be the wide spread collection for the last bit of them.

I couldn't agree more.

[DarcShadow]

Like him or not, Obama didn't do jack! His administration did, congress did, the senate did. Obama is just the figure head, like any president.

[Firewa11]

Yep, about the only real power a president has is to launch nukes, start 'police actions / send in peacekeepers', and draw up stuff. He can't do anything without ratification, supreme court appeals and rulings, etc. I don't see it happening. And what happened to Clinton's assault rifle ban? You could still buy assault rifles, you just couldn't have them with a certain number and type of mod, for rifles made after a certain year. And the brady bill. What happened to both of them? Gone gone gone, baby.

Gun control doesn't and won't work, and even Obama knows it.

[nitzer]

It doesn't matter...Obama is still the best gun salesman of all time...

[U-Turn]

I thought it was propogandists.

[DemonDuck]

Gun control would never work. To many guns already out there. I have had my eye on a nice new assult rifle but it has nothing to do with the fear of them being taken away. It has to do with the Zombie apocolipse. With my background I can take a semi auto and make it auto. I can do many mods to allow me to have the same settings that the military has on their weapons and even a few that they dont. I wouldn't do those mods though because I am a Marine and we understand that each bullet counts. One shot one (or more) kill. I also have my eye on a super sweet sniper rifle. In any case even if laws are passed I would not give up the weapons I have now.... ever. Just saying.

[DiggerT67]

Here's a notion...

I'm all for open carry (i.e. on the hip, shoulder holster, etc..). To be honest there would be an abrupt end to a whole lot of rudeness and shit talking as well as the assumed violent crimes..

JMHO...

[shilka99]

Like this?

[DiggerT67]

Like this?

Yep.... Exactly...

[U-Turn]

I say forget the X-Ray machines at the Airport, everyone getting on a plane get's a Tazer to use.
First Jackass that tries anything, well......